Environment and Sustainability Committee

 

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 3 - Senedd

 

 

 

Meeting date:

Thursday, 23 October 2014

 

 

 

Meeting time:

09.00 - 15.00

 

 

 

This meeting can be viewed on Senedd TV at:
http://www.senedd.tv/Meeting/Archive/d53cb850-6cea-4a15-ba61-f186e6e1065d?autostart=True

 

 

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Assembly Members:

 

Alun Ffred Jones AM (Chair)

Mick Antoniw AM

Jeff Cuthbert AM

Russell George AM

Llyr Gruffydd AM

Julie Morgan AM

William Powell AM

Jenny Rathbone AM

Antoinette Sandbach AM

Joyce Watson AM

 

 

 

 

 

Witnesses:

 

Carl Sargeant AM, The Minister for Natural Resources

Rebecca Evans AM, The Deputy Minister for Farming and Food

Christianne Glossop, Chief Veterinary Officer, Welsh Government

Matthew Quinn, Welsh Government

Rosemary Thomas, Welsh Government

Andrew Slade, Welsh Government

Andrew Charles, Welsh Government

Amina Rix, Welsh Government

Louise Gibson, Lawyer, Welsh Government

Sioned Rees, Welsh Government

Amelia John, Welsh Government

 

 

 

 

 

Committee Staff:

 

Alun Davidson (Clerk)

Catherine Hunt (Second Clerk)

Gwyn Griffiths (Legal Advisor)

Adam Vaughan (Deputy Clerk)

Peter Hill (Deputy Clerk)

SeatonN (Researcher)

Andrew Minnis (Researcher)

 

 

 

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1    Motion under Standing Order 17.22 to elect temporary Chair

1.1 William Powell was elected as temporary Chair.

 

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2    Introductions, apologies and substitutions

2.1 Apologies were received from Alun Ffred Jones. There were no substitutions.

 

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3    The Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill - Stage 1: Evidence Session 14

3.1 The Minister and officials responded to questions from members of the Committee.

 

3.2 The Minister agreed to:

 

·         Provide clarification as to whether the Welsh Government will seek National Statistics status for indicators being developed to measure progress in achieving the well-being goals;

·         Explain how this Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill will compliment and interact with the principles, structures and desired outcomes of the Planning (Wales) Bill and the proposed Environment Bill;

·         Provide an update on the role of the Auditor General for Wales in relation to the Bill and to clarify the concerns he has raised in relation to his powers, following his upcoming meeting with him.

 

 

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4    The Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill: Discussion of evidence

4.1 Members of the Committee discussed the evidence received to date in relation to the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill.

 

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5    Inquiry into the public forestry estate in Wales: Consideration of draft letter to Welsh Government

5.1 Committee Members agreed the letter.

 

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6    Welsh Government draft budget 2015-2016: Scrutiny of the Minister for Natural Resources and the Deputy Minister for Farming and Food

6.1 The Minister and Deputy Minister responded to questions from the Committee.

 

6.2 The Minister agreed to provide further information on:

 

·         The sale of forestry by Natural Resources Wales;

·         The impact in Wales of UK Government changes to the Energy Company Obligation; and

·         The number of Ynni’r Fro schemes and their spread across Wales.

 

6.3 The Deputy Minister agreed to provide further information on:

 

·         The financial implications of the Control of Horses (Wales) Act 2014; and

·         The co-ordination of Government spending on food promotion events.

 

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7    Papers to note </AI7><AI8>

The Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill: Further Information from Natural Resources Wales

7.1  The Committee noted the paper.</AI8><AI9>

 

The Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill: Further information from Wales Carers Alliance

7.2  The Committee noted the paper.</AI9><AI10>

 

The Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill: Further information from the Auditor General for Wales

7.3  The Committee noted the paper.</AI10><AI11>

 

The Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill: Response from the Minister for Natural Resources to the letter from the Chair

7.4  The Committee noted the response.</AI11><AI12>

Scrutiny of the Minister for Natural Resources: Further information from the Minister for Natural Resources following the meeting on 17 September

7.5  The Committee noted the paper.</AI12><AI13>

 

Scrutiny of the Deputy Minister for Farming and Food: Further information from the Deputy Minister for Farming and Food following the meeting on 17 September

7.6 The Committee noted the paper.

 

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8    Scrutiny of Welsh Government draft budget 2015-2016: Discussion of evidence

8.1 Committee Members discussed the evidence received from the Minister and Deputy Minister.

 

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